If you consider animals our friends; why do you eat them and use fur and leather?
 

Let's analaze this paradox.

0-2013kuban >what do YOU think?

I will tell you later what I think. First I need the responses...

I don't eat my friends. If I ate some of your friends that's just your problem.

3- Do you realize how weird your statement is?

2-2013kuban >You might not have them till you say what you think.

4-2013kuban > Not more than your friends.

6-Really? So, you do not consider animals our friends?

I don't consider snakes or fish my friends. May I eat them? :)
What animals do you mean? Cows? Sheep? Lions?

2013kuban, in my HUMBLE opinion, the way you are trying to continue this thread is sort of provocative.
We still don't know what you think about it. Ok, you wanted responses, you got them- now you picking on people.
Вам, как родному- мало кто захочет участвовать в теме в ТАКОМ ключе.
So, start with what you feel and think.

you [b]are[/b] picking

I guess our friends are the mammals, birds, even reptiles, even the bees. Don't you agree? Cows? Of course they are our friends, I thing. All the creatures I've mentioned are our friends. So, why hurt them? Do we have to? Do we need to eat our friends -- such as cows, pigs, hens, rabbits and may others? How do you feel when you eat a friend, huh?

I think. I mean. Typos happen.

[quote=2013kuban;39763231] How do you feel when you eat a friend, huh?[/quote]they aren't our friends. We eat them. They are our food. Some of them are our slaves.

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I do NOT consider animals my friends. We can eat them or not but it depends on the preferences.

I only had two real friends animals- my dogs. Didn't eat them I swear!)))))))))))

[quote=Шапокляк;39763850]They are our food. Some of them are our slaves.[/quote]
Doesn't it sound strange to you? It does to me. Very strange. Why are people so cruel, heartless?

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Can't you guys feel their pain? They suffer so much. For what? For your you to enhoy the taste of their corpse for a few minutes only?

[quote=2013kuban;39764183]enhoy[/quote]to enjoy....is this the value of life? Even if you don't take them for your friends?

What do you feel looking at this?

[quote=2013kuban;39764173] Цитата: Сообщение от Шапокляк They are our food. Some of them are our slaves.Doesn't it sound strange to you? It does to me. Very strange. Why are people so cruel, heartless? [/quote]
I did not post it.

People kill people. Why don't you ask about this fact?

20-Ajulitah> People being killed are enemies! And all the animals we eat are our friends - isn't it clear? Not lovers, thank God.

[quote=Ахулита;39764384] People kill people. Why don't you ask about this fact? [/quote] It is another story. But, there is a connection...
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What makes people think that they are superior to the rest of the creatures? People can not even defeat viruses and many other deseases, however these micro-organisms are extremely small. Why can't the humans, with all their tanks, rockets, nukes and stuff destroy deseases completely? Just a little thought for you to ponder on when you get a free minute or two.
Still, I don't understand why people have lost their compassion towards animals. They consider them their food, svales, entertainment. When people were kids they had different attitudes, they read good books and they loved animals, but when they grew older they turned into bloodthirsty, stonehearted monsters,willing only to kill, eat, exploit, skin alive, behead and dismember the poor creatures. Is it good? Should it be left as it is or should something be done about it?
[img]http://www.realcompassionforallanimals.org/_/rsrc/1388256085320/conscious-revolution/peace%20love%20vegan%20.jpg1.png[/img]

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Now, I recommend you to watch the doc film Earthlings. It is a very powerfull message and awakening tool. Please watch this film on the net and come back here to comment on it. Okay?

[quote=2013kuban;39765478]Okay?[/quote]no, i won't

No you won't? Why?

26-2013kuban >i don't want.
But i hope someone else will

Ok, someone probably will. But, why don't you want? Not ready for the truth?

28-2013kuban >i don't know what to do with this truth:)

Aha, you don't know what to do with this truth. But you can think about it and figure out how to act accordingly, like all other sensible people did and do all the time. We are humans. We can use our head for more than eating the corpses of anumals, drinking their secretions, devouring the chicken periods (unfertilized eggs) etc. See what I mean?

30-2013kuban >it's your choice.
Do you have a car? Do you sleep on a wooden bed? Do you eat bread? Butter?

My choice? Yes, my choice is to do something FOR this planet. What's your choice?

32-2013kuban >so what do you do for our planet?

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here's what I do on a daily basis. What about you?

34-2013kuban >so you really think if YOU don't eat a cow a year, it saves much water :)

As well, a non-meet eater considerably contributes to climate change prevention by his lifestyle. It is a scientific fact that animal farming increases the CO2 emissions; the animlas themselves couse that in the course of their food processing, so, by not consuming the flesh nor any other animal products one (me in particular) does a great job reducing the CO2 emissions.
Now, what is YOUR input?

[quote=Ахулита;39768925]so you really think if YOU don't eat a cow a year, it saves much water :)[/quote]
Is it so funny? Well, do your own research and calculations if you don't believe me. I hope it is not so hard for an educated person like you to get the right figures on this. The net is all yours. Likewise, you can do your own calculations or even hire an accountant for handling this task. Will ya?

36-2013kuban >а мона я по-русски. С детства не кидаю бумажки мимо урн, но мусор вывозят и вываливают и он является везде, соу какая разница.. Не лью воду, когда чищу зубы, но миллионы мам ежедневно купают малышей в полной ванне воды и миллионы заводов воду загрязняют. Таки шо? Сильно я помогла планете? И даже если я не покушаю мясо, за меня его скушают другие. Корову все равно вырастят и убьют.
Так вы ездите на машине?

Here's a vid regarding water saving by going vegan. [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gj7rlkHwp5w[/url]
It means that one vegan does a tremendous input on a daily basis, and of course throughout his entire life. Thousands of animals get saved, many tons of water are saved, many trees are saved and not only all that.